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#1 Nareg Maxence

Nareg Maxence

Posted 26 May 2009 - 12:29 PM

Hi! For once Goons have contributed something useful. This post links to a pdf which explains some of the WTF aspects of the grid mechanics.

Goonswarm Grid-fu

I am not sure I get all the tricks they talk about, especially the part about expanding grids, but it sure goes a long way to explain some of the strange grid related phenomena you come across.
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#2 Pesets

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 02:43 PM

If that's not an exploit, i don't know what is...

#3 Othran

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 02:58 PM

I sort of knew about this. For anyone who was on the 230509-BASIC course then this is what happened to EC-P8R Torrinos gate at the end of the course. Exploit? Well if it is then its in widespread use amongst 0.0 alliances, but in a lot of instances wreckage/tacs/whatever just cause a "spread" of the grid which, if you're in the wrong spot can be very confusing. Grids used to be worse than this when you couldn't extend them IIRC. Edit - ah there is an exploit. Building a grid "wall". Now that is very cunning indeed. Cheating (IMHO) but very very clever.
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#4 Lord Gabriell (Acobar)

Lord Gabriell (Acobar)

Posted 27 May 2009 - 04:02 AM

The information provided in that pdf is well known to a good portion of the larger alliances. It has always been on the borderline of being an exploit, which CCP has commented on in the past. As long as you do not do it to try and hide a pos I don't think they care anymore. I have heard of a handful of people who were warned for grid manipulation, but it's all over SHC and CAOD, so I am sure something will be done about it if CCP isn't happy about it.
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#5 Thadeus Uatar

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 03:49 AM

That is some interesting stuff. Maybe someone can answer a question about Doomsday Devices in relation to one of their strategies. They talk about extending the grid as a possible method for keeping your fleet safe from a DD activation. Is this a function of range? And if so, what is the practical range for a DD? Or, is it a question of line of sight? They mention this advantage in the section that talks about making an "L" shaped grid, so I'm inclined to think it has to do with the later, but I am not familiar with how DD's work.
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