Preparing for PvP BASIC (killing time)
#1
Posted 02 October 2008 - 05:10 AM
#2
Posted 02 October 2008 - 05:30 AM
When you will get familiar with that you can also start looting along with salvaging.
I also suggest you to combine that with flying in lowsec in some t1 frigate or cruiser and getting in some combat engagements. You will be blown up quite a lot, but if you don't forget to insure, it shouldn't be painful for your wallet.
One more advice would be to try faction wars.
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#3
Posted 02 October 2008 - 05:31 AM
Wow my classes were so long ago the link stopped working. Look I took a bunch of them ok? It was a long time ago. Just trust me on it.
Radioactive cats have 18 half lives. (Unless in a box, in which case they have half a chance of having no half lives.)
#4
Posted 02 October 2008 - 05:38 AM
#5
Posted 02 October 2008 - 09:26 AM
Regarding ninja-salvaging: how badly is this looked down upon? I have decent salvaging skills (salv 3, and a few hours away from snagging tractor beams, and of course the ability to fly a Catalyst), though no Astrometrics (which needs changing). I do need to get practice bookmarking and probing, and this sounds like a great way to do it, but it seems like this could be the sort of thing which might be viewed as scummy on the level of ore theft, though I doubt it's viewed as poorly as high-sec ganking. Would getting caught doing ninja salvage put a black mark on my character's reputation? What about my corporation's reputation?
For the record, I'm curious how this falls under AGONY's policies. From reading your rules, I don't see anything specifically against it, and it doesn't seem to count as playing politics. However, it might be seen as damaging to the reputation of the corp, which is more the reason why I ask.
Which brings me to my question about corporations. I'm currently in a rather small player corporation that comes from a community I know from other games (Anqara Industries (ANQ), from The Amazon Basin). They're nice, friendly people, and they've given me some solid advice on learning the basic game mechanics, but it's also a rather small group that seems primarily interested in PvE and high sec activities. I don't think they would have a problem with me leaving for another corporation, but I'm a little wary of throwing down with some random startup, not knowing their reputation or policies. From reading Agony's recruitment information, philosophy, rules, as well as your polite and helpful responses, you all do seem like the sort of group I would like to join up with after I find my footing, but for now I must admit I'm a bit torn, as I don't want to corp-hop and join groups with no principles and terrible reputations in the interim between now and finding a permanent home. Do you have any specific advice for picking a corp? Are there any groups which I should watch out for? (Note: I understand this could be construed as asking you all to play politics, but that's not how I mean it.)
And finally, for a random question out of left field: is there a role for miners/industrialists out in low/0 sec space? I've got a real life friend that actually got me into my current stint in EVE, and while he's a fresh as I am, he's as avid about the financial side of EVE as I am the PvP. I don't think he's opposed to PvP, necessarily, but it's not his primary interest. If I were to join up with a corporation bent on making it out in low/no sec space, would he be able to function as a miner or manufacturer, or would he be screwed out there? For the record, he currently is flying a mining fitted Exchequer, with the related Gallente industrial background.
Anyway, thanks for the advice so far, and I hope to see more of you all in the future (though hopefully not by staring at a sea of flashing red boxes in my overview). If any of these questions are of the type which I shouldn't be asking here, please, tell me and I'll stop posting them.
Thanks,
Saigo
#6
Posted 02 October 2008 - 10:03 AM
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#7
Posted 02 October 2008 - 10:45 AM
#8
Posted 02 October 2008 - 11:16 AM
#9
Posted 02 October 2008 - 12:24 PM
#10
Posted 02 October 2008 - 01:17 PM
Wow my classes were so long ago the link stopped working. Look I took a bunch of them ok? It was a long time ago. Just trust me on it.
Radioactive cats have 18 half lives. (Unless in a box, in which case they have half a chance of having no half lives.)
#11
Posted 02 October 2008 - 01:44 PM
#12
Posted 02 October 2008 - 01:45 PM
and its not even announced YET ... so watch the forums closely :-)Time zone wise, the next class will be on the 18th Oct at 1800
and ninja salvaging is funny as hell, and you learn alot about probing and using your scanner. Dodixie is a nice system for that, i mission there myself very often, so you maybe can ninja salvage my missions as well
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#13
Posted 03 October 2008 - 11:42 AM
#14
Posted 03 October 2008 - 12:18 PM
Silly question, what is ninja salvaging?
Sneaking in and 'stealing' other people's salvage items by salvaging the wrecks. You don't get flagged for it and it's quite legal under the game mechanics, but people do get upset by it.
#15
Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:13 PM
Silly question, what is ninja salvaging?
Sneaking in and 'stealing' other people's salvage items by salvaging the wrecks. You don't get flagged for it and it's quite legal under the game mechanics, but people do get upset by it.
And with good reason. Like can flippers, ninja salvagers are just sad little people.
#16
Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:50 PM
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#17
Posted 03 October 2008 - 06:52 PM
#18
Posted 03 October 2008 - 09:22 PM
#19
Posted 03 October 2008 - 11:16 PM
I cant wait till the PvP basics class ... I feel like a little kid in a candy store ... !lol (OK OK a very old kid)
But i do have a question to the upcoming class. I was planning on getting all the skills required for the class
to at least level 3 ... witch is no big deal ... Now the question is if there is something else that might come
in handy or that i should have that would be a plus. :dodge:
Warp Drive ops is a good one to go as high as you can. Lvl 3 is not enough for some frigs, especially on the long warps. It's well worth it.
#20
Posted 04 October 2008 - 02:24 PM
#21
Posted 04 October 2008 - 02:43 PM
I cant wait till the PvP basics class ... I feel like a little kid in a candy store ... !lol (OK OK a very old kid)
But i do have a question to the upcoming class. I was planning on getting all the skills required for the class
to at least level 3 ... witch is no big deal ... Now the question is if there is something else that might come
in handy or that i should have that would be a plus. :dodge:
Warp Drive ops is a good one to go as high as you can. Lvl 3 is not enough for some frigs, especially on the long warps. It's well worth it.
If you've got some spare time for skills training then warp drive operation is a very good one - there can be some long warps during the course and some students will probably not make them all in one go, a few might even take 3 warps, without this skill.
Others that you might consider are:
Long Range Targeting - I always found this useful.
Navigation - will make you go faster.
Controlled Bursts - if you're using turrets, this will reduce cap burn.
If you have a particular bonus for EWAR that you intend using, then train the skills for that a little more. (e.g if you are going to fly a griffin, train more of things like long distance jamming or electronic warfare)
Any other support skills that will improve cap are always good.
The course is designed such that you can do it with just the pre-reqs, so don't stress too much about it.
#22
Posted 04 October 2008 - 11:31 PM
#23
Posted 05 October 2008 - 01:30 AM
Thanks for all the good tips. Na wasn't stressing at all just have nothing to train for at the moment
I know that sounds a little strange. Let's say i have no priority currently and can fit a few things.
I will decide after the basic class if PvP is something I want to be doing or not. Dependent on that I will choose my skills.
Well in any case thanks for the help. :amazed:
If it were possible, I'd borrow that training time from you and get a few things trained myself.
If you find yourself at a cross-roads and unsure of your direction, TRAIN THE SUPPORT SKILLS. Engineering for Capacitor and Grid, Electronics for CPU and Navigation for agility/speed/etc, Mechanic skills if you're armour tanking, Engineering contains the shield skills as well.
You'll find that these support skills will be useful for almost any career.
#24
Posted 05 October 2008 - 04:01 AM
#25
Posted 05 October 2008 - 04:56 AM
Well here is my problem in skill training .. i got all leaning lvl 1 at 4 and all learning level 2 at 3
Then i did all the really important skills like engineering, electronics, navigation, mechanics, navigation, afterburner ... well all the main dependency skills to 4 or 5 depending on my needs and now i am trying to figure out what to do with this character.
Take this however you like, I am no expert, but if you are looking for direction, train for Recons. You will always be in demand. !lol