[10 DEC @ 0330] Destroyer Public Gang - Friday Night US (short notice)
#1
Posted 08 December 2011 - 10:17 PM
#2
Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:12 PM
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/11350-open-pvp-avanced-hssr-2300-15th-advanced-2100-for-16th-17th-july/]ADVANCED HSSR -1807102100[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/11588-closed-pvp-wolfpacks-class-august-2829-1800/]WOLFPACKS-201008281800[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/12728-fullpvp-covops-nov-28-1800-venue-changeread/]COVOPS - 281101800[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/13477-closed-pvp-skirmish-prototype-class-29th-30th-january-1300/]SKIRMISH-20110129[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/13315-closed-pvp-flybys-february-12th-1800/]FLYBYS-20110212[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/16195-closed-stealth-bombers-20111119-2000/]Stealth Bombers 20111119[/link]
#3
Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:17 PM
#4
Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:28 PM
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/11350-open-pvp-avanced-hssr-2300-15th-advanced-2100-for-16th-17th-july/]ADVANCED HSSR -1807102100[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/11588-closed-pvp-wolfpacks-class-august-2829-1800/]WOLFPACKS-201008281800[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/12728-fullpvp-covops-nov-28-1800-venue-changeread/]COVOPS - 281101800[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/13477-closed-pvp-skirmish-prototype-class-29th-30th-january-1300/]SKIRMISH-20110129[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/13315-closed-pvp-flybys-february-12th-1800/]FLYBYS-20110212[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/16195-closed-stealth-bombers-20111119-2000/]Stealth Bombers 20111119[/link]
#5
Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:33 PM
#6
Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:37 PM
But fitting 3x sensor boosters will usually only help you killmail whore.
Don't be a whore; fit EWAR.
In response to the troll...
No.Is 'So I can lock fast' a good reason?
If you're not having fun you're doing it wrong.
#7
Posted 09 December 2011 - 07:16 AM
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/11350-open-pvp-avanced-hssr-2300-15th-advanced-2100-for-16th-17th-july/]ADVANCED HSSR -1807102100[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/11588-closed-pvp-wolfpacks-class-august-2829-1800/]WOLFPACKS-201008281800[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/12728-fullpvp-covops-nov-28-1800-venue-changeread/]COVOPS - 281101800[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/13477-closed-pvp-skirmish-prototype-class-29th-30th-january-1300/]SKIRMISH-20110129[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/13315-closed-pvp-flybys-february-12th-1800/]FLYBYS-20110212[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/16195-closed-stealth-bombers-20111119-2000/]Stealth Bombers 20111119[/link]
#8
Posted 09 December 2011 - 09:54 AM
BASIC - 1403091800
WOLFPACKS - 2103091800 | FLYBYS - 20110212
ADVANCED - 0404091800 | ADVANCED HSSR - 0805102300
COVOPS - 1804090001 | SKIRMISH - 20110129 | BOMBERS - 20111119
#9
Posted 09 December 2011 - 09:55 AM
They're Euros, so fear not.With dessies we might even get past Rook's Navy Apocs
#10
Posted 09 December 2011 - 10:15 AM
#11
Posted 09 December 2011 - 11:43 AM
BASIC - 1403091800
WOLFPACKS - 2103091800 | FLYBYS - 20110212
ADVANCED - 0404091800 | ADVANCED HSSR - 0805102300
COVOPS - 1804090001 | SKIRMISH - 20110129 | BOMBERS - 20111119
#12
Posted 09 December 2011 - 12:57 PM
#13
Posted 09 December 2011 - 02:51 PM
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/wiki/index.php/PVP_Wolfpack_Graduates#PVP-WOLFPACK_Graduates_-_January.2C_2007]WOLFPACKS-1908061800[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/16195-closed-stealth-bombers-20111119-2000/]COVOPS-SB-20111119[/link]
#14
Posted 09 December 2011 - 02:55 PM
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[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?70929]ADVANCED-050320081900[/link]
#15
Posted 09 December 2011 - 03:19 PM
#16
Posted 09 December 2011 - 03:57 PM
This is quite tempting, very tempting even. But my god, 03:3, that's 04:30am for me.
I'm entertaining the idea of waking up early on a saturday, but I doubt 04:30am is humanly possible. What's the position on joining up late? If you happen to only be halfway in syndicate I'm fairly sure I can get there safely in a dessie, so I won't need hand holding to get there or anything, just a destination and I'll phone back in when I get there. Is that permissible?
Shouldn't be a problem.
#17
Posted 09 December 2011 - 04:55 PM
WOLFPACKS-20110917
#18
Posted 09 December 2011 - 06:16 PM
WOLFPACKS-20110917 | ADVANCED-20111216 | FLYBYS-20120324
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#19
Posted 09 December 2011 - 07:01 PM
#20
Posted 09 December 2011 - 07:13 PM
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/11350-open-pvp-avanced-hssr-2300-15th-advanced-2100-for-16th-17th-july/]ADVANCED HSSR -1807102100[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/11588-closed-pvp-wolfpacks-class-august-2829-1800/]WOLFPACKS-201008281800[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/12728-fullpvp-covops-nov-28-1800-venue-changeread/]COVOPS - 281101800[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/13477-closed-pvp-skirmish-prototype-class-29th-30th-january-1300/]SKIRMISH-20110129[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/13315-closed-pvp-flybys-february-12th-1800/]FLYBYS-20110212[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/16195-closed-stealth-bombers-20111119-2000/]Stealth Bombers 20111119[/link]
#21
Posted 09 December 2011 - 08:48 PM
#22
Posted 09 December 2011 - 09:17 PM
There are ultimately two classes of destroyer fights post-crucible from what I've seen so far. Against other light ships (namely other destroyer fleets) target-calling and focused fire is of supreme importance. Whoever is best at quickly moving through primaries will win.
I think that when glass cannons square off getting your damage on SOMETHING should be your first priority. Let's say we have a 20v20 in destroyers. Group A calls primaries. Group B each person is given an opposite number in the opposing fleet to primary and destroy. I bet you Group B gets 10 kills long before Group A does.
Keep in mind that destroyers have smaller signatures and more hp now, so bombers aren't nearly as effective.
K, I'll default to aggress bombers on sight (absent orders to the contrary) then. (Here's where fast locks are key but we'll work with what we have.)
People overheat basically any mod on any ship, it depends on the situation. If you really need that bit of dps to finish someone off then sure, but as a general practice you're better off not overheating.
Would you overheat the whole rack though? And if not, is it worth splitting it up into 2 different groups? It's too bad you can't have separate 'firing' groups and 'overheat' groups.
Edit: Actually the separate firing and overheat groups is a dumb idea as it obviously wouldn't work for those guns where overheating shortens the cycle time.
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/11350-open-pvp-avanced-hssr-2300-15th-advanced-2100-for-16th-17th-july/]ADVANCED HSSR -1807102100[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/11588-closed-pvp-wolfpacks-class-august-2829-1800/]WOLFPACKS-201008281800[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/12728-fullpvp-covops-nov-28-1800-venue-changeread/]COVOPS - 281101800[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/13477-closed-pvp-skirmish-prototype-class-29th-30th-january-1300/]SKIRMISH-20110129[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/13315-closed-pvp-flybys-february-12th-1800/]FLYBYS-20110212[/link]
[link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/topic/16195-closed-stealth-bombers-20111119-2000/]Stealth Bombers 20111119[/link]
#23
Posted 09 December 2011 - 09:25 PM
There are ultimately two classes of destroyer fights post-crucible from what I've seen so far. Against other light ships (namely other destroyer fleets) target-calling and focused fire is of supreme importance. Whoever is best at quickly moving through primaries will win.
I think that when glass cannons square off getting your damage on SOMETHING should be your first priority. Let's say we have a 20v20 in destroyers. Group A calls primaries. Group B each person is given an opposite number in the opposing fleet to primary and destroy. I bet you Group B gets 10 kills long before Group A does.
You might think so, but you'd be wrong. Last week we had two distinct fights against other destroyer gangs (both outnumbered us and had more firepower than us) and yet beat both handily because we focused fire and were disciplined while they spread around their DPS. Yes targets die quickly, but that's why you have secondaries and tertiaries. Maybe the entire gang doesn't get on each individual target, but at any one point in time all your dps is focused on a single target. At no point in either circumstance should people be idle, but with focused fire you'll be taking down targets faster.
If you get to a point where calling primaries is no longer feasible (this point is larger than 20v20) then the solution is to have everyone sort by name and go down the list, not to spread dps. Spread DPS is basically never a good idea, unless you significantly outnumber an enemy gang and just want to grab as many of them as possible.
#24
Posted 09 December 2011 - 09:26 PM
Would you overheat the whole rack though? And if not, is it worth splitting it up into 2 different groups? It's too bad you can't have separate 'firing' groups and 'overheat' groups.
From the overheating topic in ship fittings I'd think it would be worth separating your guns into two groups. So you don't have to overheat your entire rack. whether you press F1 or F1&F2 isn't that big of a difference, and it also gives you the ability to dis-engage your first group when the target is in low hull and ready to pop, or when you want to put a group of guns on a drone while still hitting the primary.
But that's just my opinion.
#25
Posted 09 December 2011 - 09:28 PM