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[Barrak]

Hey, I completed the Basic PvP last night and had a whale of a time and am now looking at the future courses and the relevant skills to ensure I have whats needed. I have been looking at the dates of some of the courses and some of them work quite well for me and some do not, however the ones that don't fit, may be okay dependant on the length of the courses. Can someone please advise me how long the average length of the course is for the following: Wolfpacks Advance COVOPs I appreciate that there are always circumstances that have an effect on the length, but there must be an average time. Regards Barrak

[Bergon Darek]

Probably you should figure on 2 to 2 1/2 hours for the "classwork" and the start of the practical. Then allow plenty of time for the roam if you choose to participate. There's no requirement to participate in the roam for a regular class if you don't have time; somewhere on the wiki or here in the forums it's stated that you graduate at the end of the lecture. But the roam is, frankly, the best part, so you should stay for it if you can.

[Pesets]

I think a typical class is 4 hours of lecture + 4 hours of optional roam. If you can't stay online for eight hours straight, it is possible to leave after the lecture, and for the next class join just the roam as alumni (though you can re-take the lecture as alumni as well). The last 12-hour basic class was more of an exception, i don't think roams normally last that long (and you have opportunities to leave during the roam anyways).

[Othran]

There's a really Euro-friendly Wolfpacks class coming up - starts at 1500 so it won't leave me wiped out at 4am

Keep your eyes open for it. I'll be on it as a student if at all possible.

[Barrak]

thanks for the replies guys, I thought perhaps that some of the courses were a little shorter due to the Basic one covering so much, however, that said, I am obviously an amateur at this and for all I know the basic may have only scratched the surface. To be honest, I like the length and intensity of the course, it keeps you focused and it means that you can not plan anything else around it. If it were only 3 hours long, then I am sure I would have been down the pub after and would have been worrying during the course about being late for it. But due to the intensity and length, apart from sleeping, nothing else was planned. The most frustrating part is not being able to access the wikipages for the future courses. I would love to have a read on the stuff right now!!! ONce again, thanks for the replies. Barrak

[Aether]

I believe for most classes we try to keep the lecture part to being around 3 hours long. Last class was a bit of an exception because we were trying out some new things Once you have completed the lecture part of the course you graduate that class and can come to future classes for free as alumni and even skip the class portion and come just for the roam. Although I would recommend repeating the lecture part again (especially if you are a new player) because everyone teaches it a bit differently and because you won't catch everything from just one lecture, so when you repeat it there are good chances you will pick up on some new stuff.

[Azual]

It's pretty much been covered, but if you check old enrollment threads (try the two in my sig for a start!) most classes specify their length in the thread (typically 8 to 12 hours) but since you can leave at any time after the lecture portion (allow 4 hours for this) the class is basically as long as you want it to be.

[Pesets]

There's a really Euro-friendly Wolfpacks class coming up - starts at 1500 so it won't leave me wiped out at 4am

Keep your eyes open for it. I'll be on it as a student if at all possible.

I'm planning to take Covops if it's going to happen, and according to the schedule it's on the same day as the next Wolfpacks; so if Agony will indeed decide to do both classes on the same day, i won't make it. Of course one of the classes will most likely be moved, so we'll see how it goes (though i'll be screwed if Covops happens sooner than 27th, as i have just about enough time to finish Covops IV by then...)

[Skrewed]

There's a really Euro-friendly Wolfpacks class coming up - starts at 1500 so it won't leave me wiped out at 4am

Keep your eyes open for it. I'll be on it as a student if at all possible.

I'm planning to take Covops if it's going to happen, and according to the schedule it's on the same day as the next Wolfpacks; so if Agony will indeed decide to do both classes on the same day, i won't make it. Of course one of the classes will most likely be moved, so we'll see how it goes (though i'll be screwed if Covops happens sooner than 27th, as i have just about enough time to finish Covops IV by then...)

Cov-ops seminar will run con-currently with the wolfpacks class, then the cov-ops pilots will be paired with an agony cov-ops pilot and they will provide the intel for the wolfpacks roam. If you haven't had wolfpacks, I'd do it before taking cov-ops though.

Right now the both the cov-ops and wolfpacks classes are both starting at 18:00. An actual class announcement should be out later today or tomorrow.

[jabial]

There's a really Euro-friendly Wolfpacks class coming up - starts at 1500 so it won't leave me wiped out at 4am

Keep your eyes open for it. I'll be on it as a student if at all possible.

Thank you thank you thank you. Consider me enrolled

[Skrewed]

I repeat, a wolfpacks class starting at 15:00 has not been announced or scheduled. The time listed on the schedule is 18:00 and it has not changed.

Why you ask? Many of our classes involve Agony members in both NA & EU, so we pick a time that has historically worked the best for the most people. It's not that we're a bunch of insensitive clods, it really has more to do with the fact that there's usually 10-25 Agony members behind the scenes at any given class and coordinating it all gets very difficult at times. In the case of the classes on the 27th we have instructors from the U.K., central US and west cost US and then add Australia in for FC and support.

[Carenthor Loon]

If you haven't had wolfpacks, I'd do it before taking cov-ops though.

Wolfpacks is a prerequisite of Covops, so if you haven't done Wolfpacks then you can't do Covops... ;-)

[Othran]

The confusion over the 1500 class was entirely mine guys so sorry for raising any false hopes It is an entirely different experience watching what goes on behind the scenes for these classes - there's a LOT more than you think. For those of you into project management you're looking at probably 5 man-days just for the class, never mind prep and all the rest. Apologies again guys. If I could wave a magic wand you'd all be on PvP classes now for it'd make Eve what it was originally meant to be.

[jabial]

No problem. I'll have to do with a 1800 class; probably not the next one however.