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[Aldus Lightwing]

From the Dev Blog
http://myeve.eve-onl...?a=blog&bid=615

Step 1: In Apocrypha, March 10th, we discontinue support for ShaderModel 1, making ShaderModel 2 (GeForce FX (5 series) or ATi R300 series cards or compatible) the minimum requirement and discontinue the "Classic client" version of EVE, replacing it with "Premium Lite"

Step 2: In the Winter Expansion 2009 we are considering discontinuing support for ShaderModel 2 and make the minimum specification ShaderModel 3(GeForce 6 class cards or ATi x1300 or compatible)

Edit: I wonder how Premium Lite will affect frame rates and lag?

[Kerin Chei]

Damn you CCP! I'm going to have to start saving up for a new laptop then This one can probably run Shadermodel 2 but there's no way in hell it'll run Shadermodel 3. Bah!

[Phobos]

I have games from 1998 that are more graphiccaly demanding than EVe classic so by the time Premium lite comes out it should not be that big of a deal. I found lag to not be a problem either. I am sure most lag comes from giant capital blob fights in 0.0 but anywhere i dont see an issue. I have sat in Jita fitting ships with 1000 in local and had very little lag, I think its more ISP and conenction realted than personal comps, I dont know. All I know is even Premium graphics arent all that so its about time the upped the specs its 2009 now.

[Aldus Lightwing]

I definitely see a performance difference between Classic and Premium on my 2008 laptop with nvidia graphics (especially when dual boxing). So i typically run Classic for best performance. I just wonder what the performance difference will be between Classic and this new Premium Lite. I guess we will find out on SISI in a few weeks.

[Mortis Aguila]

Decisions, decisions ... food or a new computer to play Eve ... Food or Eve ... food ... Eve ... Aaaahhh, fuck it. I need to lose weight anyway.

[Kerin Chei]

Haha right on!

[Phobos]

Dual boxing is really hairy, So im not sure if graphics have anything to do with it,I can dual box just fine on SiSi no problem but i cant when im on the regular client even if i am in a system with no one in it but me. There are people with less performance machines than I that can dual box so dont place too much on the graphics engine. Keep in mind im using 2 graphics cards too.

[Baka Lakadaka]

I've been known to have up to 5 clients running on my laptop - 3 on Tranq and 2 on Sisi........I wonder how well that will work when we get this new client.

[vissuddha]

If you have trouble with dual boxing using 2 premium clients, try running 1 classic, 1 premium. This has been proven to prevent many issues when doing so.

[Phobos]

ya its weird it used to work just dandy then all of a sudden it wouldnt work. When i cant dual box I mean i cant even open up 2 applications. I dont even need to log in and it wont work. But its only the real server though SiSi I can dual box like nothing no problems. I can try one classic and one premium but like i said i dont even have to log into the second account and it wont work.

[Baka Lakadaka]

ya its weird it used to work just dandy then all of a sudden it wouldnt work. When i cant dual box I mean i cant even open up 2 applications. I dont even need to log in and it wont work. But its only the real server though SiSi I can dual box like nothing no problems. I can try one classic and one premium but like i said i dont even have to log into the second account and it wont work.

It doesn't make sense that logging in to Sisi should be different. The clients are essentially the same.

The only thing I can think of is cache. The Eve client, in my experience, is VERY bad at cleaning up after itself. The cache needs to be cleaned up quite regularly or it just keeps growing. I do a reinstall fairly regularly - as a result I've started to clean up my bookmarks and put them into containers in my hanger and I'm getting adept at setting up my overview - this is just one reason for having a lot of CovOps ships and an insta-undock to warp to.

My old backup laptop hasn't been installed in some time and it struggles on the odd occasion I fire it up. My work and gaming laptops are both fine, but have had recent reinstalls.

[Aldus Lightwing]

Update from CCP:

On March 10th, after the Apocrypha expansion, having a graphics card that supports ShaderModel 2 will be the minimum to run EVE. This means GeForce FX (5 series) or ATI R300 (9500, x300) or compatible. EVE Classic will be replaced with EVE Premium Lite. There are no plans to change the specifications further this year.

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So I guess CCP is delaying the requirement of Shader Model 3 for the Ambulation release later this year. This was due to a large uproar on the forums. Mostly by players using laptops.

http://myeve.eve-onl...?a=blog&bid=617

[Braedan]

I can honestly say there is nothing in the world I am looking forward to less than Ambulation. That is a totally different topic altogether though. =)

[Kusachiho]

When I saw that they might be considering making shader model v3 the min requirement, my chances of coming back to Eve any time soon dropped further since my "new" laptop was one that I had to pick up in a hurry instead of shopping around when school was about to start. That being said, it only has a ati x1150 which only does up to shader 2, as opposed to my go 7900gtx on my laptop that died :> On the other hand my desktop does have a 9800gt in there which will does up to shader model v4. But I only get to go home once in a blue moon at this point so yeah.... that's not so much a feasible option for me. Since this semester is really too busy to go home at least for the foreseeable future. That being said, how much longer until full dx10 becomes the min rec? (since only shaders 3,4 do that anyway)

[Feline Ferocity]

I'm not sure my pc is gonna be able to run EVE if this comes out. If not, bye bye EVE x)