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[FEEDBACK] PvP-BASIC 19th March @20:00

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#1 Silas


Posted 19 March 2016 - 09:20 PM

This was our first time running this updated class. As such, we would appreciate any feedback or ideas for improvement you might have.

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#2 DeepBlue


Posted 19 March 2016 - 11:53 PM

Much better use of time than the previous format. All the basics of fleet movement covered. Then straight into the fun stuff. As usual, much of the learning came from listening to and observing how the Agony pilots behaved.


I really enjoyed it and as hoped it has re-ignited my interest in Eve. Thank you  :)

Edited by DeepBlue, 19 March 2016 - 11:56 PM.

#3 Xena Jax

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Posted 19 March 2016 - 11:58 PM

As always much fun! I think the class was more efficient and quicker than the previous teaching method. Thanks to the FC and everyone else @ Agony. I'll see you next time!

#4 Arkady Olenard

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Posted 19 March 2016 - 11:59 PM

Agreed, this went very smoothly - was a great time, especially the fight at the end!


Presentation of the material was very organized, and I was impressed by how efficient your comms were. 


Looking forward to the more advanced classes!

#5 Nathair Nimheil

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Posted 20 March 2016 - 12:01 AM

I like the new format/syllabus much more than the previous one. The roam, of course, was great fun too! Only note I might add would be a suggestion to make the class a bit more guns friendly. I took a Corax to comply with build suggestions but a LR Coercer would have worked just fine too.

#6 Siet Acoma

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Posted 20 March 2016 - 12:26 AM

The class was great and the roam greater. Very calmly run fleet, excellent comms discipline and professionally run throughout. Look forward to returning for further classes. Thank you to the FC, Agony fleet participants and organizational powers at Agony for continuing to bring the class to the Eve public.

#7 hafwolf

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Posted 20 March 2016 - 04:56 AM

Loved the class just sorry my internet crashed before finishing the roam.   Had lots of fun and want to do more with agony.  Should have done it when I first started eve online.

#8 Gandaian

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Posted 20 March 2016 - 06:35 PM

As someone whom last PVP kill was like 600 days ago when I stopped playing - I thought class was very good - perhaps go over a bit more basics at start maybe 10 minutes overview won't hurt - yes even go over the Check List information we know people don't read class notes like they should - Setting up Home Station - Ship Insurance - Safety settings - Shield - Armor Alarm settings - grouping guns /. missiles - loading scripts.  Won't hurt to go over Fleet Window - Watch List - whom to add to watch list - setting Drones - Passive or Aggressive - focus fire (no drones on Talwars of course).


I like your default overview - not sure worth explaining why the settings were chosen - I noticed you didn't have POCOs shown on your pod saver settings.  For introductory class explaining overview maybe not be required. 


Also since you going into null - a quick explaining of Warp Bubbles - how to escape by going back through Gate or using MWD to burn out of the bubble won't hurt before roam.  May also quick run through Timers - Suspect - Limited Engagement - Criminal  - Weapons Timers and Gun Gates in High Sec won't hurt also because some might not been in null or low sec before.  Never hurts to refresh your memory as well and what effects they have on combat.

Edited by Gandaian, 20 March 2016 - 07:05 PM.

#9 Jun Mikoto

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 07:22 PM

first, thx to all the agonites to make this happen.


the class part was well structured and preped perfectly for the roam.


the roam was great. the recon seemed very professional (for a new pilot like me) and so did itko as fc. sometimes for me it was a bit hard to understand wich was the next system (we say "tac" for "dash" at the uni and im not a native speaker as well) and the fleet advanced very quickly. 2 or 3 times the align was called as i still were in the system shift. But at least it was a great experience and i will not hesitate to step in every agony class i can.


a scout and tackle class isnt planned?

#10 Rom Askiras

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 09:10 PM

Thanks for you feedback Ladies / Gents.


This helps us improve our classes.




#11 Reverend Ellecon

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 09:13 PM


a scout and tackle class isnt planned?


Not currently but we will have NPSI roams coming up and more basic classes, both of which alumni of the basic class can attend. We are in the process of updating the intermediate class so keep an eye open for all this good stuff in the future.

#12 Victoria Xin

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Posted 01 April 2016 - 12:37 AM

This class is greatly improved over the last one. Undocking and having a practical session is a great way to teach. I think the topics covered really prepared everyone for the roam. It's impossible to teach everything in a short time,but you did a great job packing a lot of learning into that time.

As always with Agony, the relaxed atmosphere makes you learn faster.

Now, take this format and create more classes!!

Thanks for a great time

#13 Victoria Xin

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Posted 01 April 2016 - 12:43 AM

When you first fly with a fleet, if you can just keep up and not get lost or left behind, you've done well. I think topics for a basic course should focus on that.

I think you all did a good job of doing that.