CCP Banned Mittani for 30 days, and is removed from CSM 7
#1
Posted 29 March 2012 - 01:01 AM
While I have no love for the goons, I do think Mittani has done more good for this game than bad, especially as CSM6 Chairman. I don't mind the ban, as it sends a good message that people need to keep within certain limits on the public forums, but I really don't think he should be removed from CSM 7....
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#2
Posted 29 March 2012 - 02:15 AM
Back 5 minutes, already causing trouble
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#3
Posted 29 March 2012 - 02:28 AM
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#4
Posted 29 March 2012 - 04:51 AM
3/30 Edit: I learned a few hours ago that CCP's justification for the ban was a post I made 4+ days before the ban. Not sure if that's true or not but I can't prove otherwise. Just wanted the record clear on that, not that anybody cares.
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#5
Posted 29 March 2012 - 04:54 AM
#6
Posted 29 March 2012 - 06:01 AM
....well it has a sort of inevitability about it. Sooner or later something like this is bound to happen.
Lack of judgement from both Mittens and CCP, but CCP at least should have reviewed the video in the cold light of day before putting it online.
Storm in a teacup really - if someone other than a goon had said it then there wouldn't have been half the drama which ensued.
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#7
Posted 29 March 2012 - 06:48 AM
Storm in a teacup really - if someone other than a goon had said it then there wouldn't have been half the drama which ensued.
But this is the exact reason of this having any significance in the first place. Goons are a huge part of eve like it or not. And their doings have huge impact on the community. if this was just some guy, it wouldn't be any less wrong or illegal. But Goons play their game loud and noisy. and they want all the attention they can get with their bullying style of play.
This is also the reason why this is intereseting at all. Eve is unique and our videogaming generation is also unique, because we are doing stuff that one in the memory of man has ever done before. We are playing a game(s) where it is difficult to draw the line where reality ends and game play starts. So the whole situation is totally in uncharted waters. How do we percieve the relations between virtual and real. What are the consequences of action in either of them, what are the things that are right in the other and wrong in the other and so forth..
ofc this is just douchebaggery in a form or another, but still it's douchebaggery no one has seen before!
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#8
Posted 29 March 2012 - 07:11 AM
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#9
Posted 29 March 2012 - 07:26 AM
They never edited any of the Fanfest videos afaik. That kind of defeats the point of the videos, which is to show those not there what Fanfest is like. I am all for not editing the videos. And honestly I don't see this reflecting on CCP in any way... This guy does not work for CCP, he is a player. Sure he's a CSM member, but who cares. But as always, people are retarded and overly sensitive about things...I was just stunned that CCP put an unedited video online even after the forum drama started - maybe someone at CCP getting a bit of "payback" for something Mittens did on CSM?
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#10
Posted 29 March 2012 - 08:06 AM
I chose not to vote for CSM this year so it makes no odds to me one way or another.
That's the problem right there. I think for CSM8 a lot more will do that.
Since the CSM is muzzled by NDA they needed a glitter person all players are talking about to get noticed. Love him or hate him he made the news. That's gone now.
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#11
Posted 29 March 2012 - 08:15 AM
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#12
Posted 29 March 2012 - 01:30 PM
#13
Posted 29 March 2012 - 01:44 PM
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#14
Posted 29 March 2012 - 01:51 PM
Agree to disagree then. I am not in favor of cencorship.I think Mittens did OK on CSM6, he got drunk and came out with crap at Fanfest. It happens. Still don't see why CCP didn't edit the video - and "its what Fanfest is like" is no excuse for promulgating what they now say is a EULA violation to a much wider audience. Live streaming is one thing, uploading it to youtube is another and no amount of spin changes that.
There are tons of cameras in the audience, it would likely have ended up on youtube anyway.
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#15
Posted 29 March 2012 - 01:55 PM
#16
Posted 29 March 2012 - 02:05 PM
Agree to disagree then. I am not in favor of cencorship.
There are tons of cameras in the audience, it would likely have ended up on youtube anyway.
Oh we're not going to have an argument about it Silas Mittens isn't worth that - nor frankly are CCP.
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#17
Posted 29 March 2012 - 02:25 PM
CCP has not uploaded to youtube. The video you see on youtube was uploaded by someone who recorded the live stream I believe.... uploading it to youtube is another and no amount of spin changes that ...
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#18
Posted 29 March 2012 - 02:33 PM
CCP has not uploaded to youtube. The video you see on youtube was uploaded by someone who recorded the live stream I believe.
... uploading it to youtube is another and no amount of spin changes that ...
I followed a link on CCPs twitter feed, from CCP. I assumed they uploaded it.
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