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#1 Kalar Freno

Kalar Freno

Posted 25 October 2011 - 04:00 PM

Thought this might be of interest:

So, Reddit got onto the internal CCP test server or something, I don't know. Anyway, there's a massive amount of info on changes here:

http://pastebin.com/TkY3rY6q



#2 glepp

glepp

Posted 25 October 2011 - 04:08 PM

[*] Light Ion Blaster II
  [*] capacitorNeed: 1.33 => 0.931
  [*] cpu: 13.0 => 12.0
  [*] trackingSpeed: 0.336 => 0.4032
 

HELL YEAH!



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#3 Kalar Freno

Kalar Freno

Posted 25 October 2011 - 04:08 PM

It seems to include: Buff to destroyers (more tank, less sig) All hybrids use use 30% less cap and are easier to fit Rails do 10% more damage Blasters get 10-20% more tracking Galante speed and agility buffed across the board Caldari hybrid ships get an agility buff Onerios buff? (trades a mid for a low, and gets a lower sig, in addition to the buff above) T2 missiles lose all their drawbacks short range T2 ammo gets buffed T2 bomb and probe launchers new (T2) gang links! looks like there will be a choice of 6 in each area now.

#4 DaDutchDude

DaDutchDude

Posted 25 October 2011 - 04:11 PM

Mother of god, that's a lot of changes ... I'm so glad I'm cross trained now, because with this many changes, something will definitely be OP after this, we just need to figure out what it'll be. Edit: provided this is not a troll or very different from actual changes at release time of course ....
"As always, speak softly and carry a big stick."


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#5 Kalar Freno

Kalar Freno

Posted 25 October 2011 - 04:19 PM

Mother of god, that's a lot of changes ... I'm so glad I'm cross trained now, because with this many changes, something will definitely be OP after this, we just need to figure out what it'll be.

Edit: provided this is not a troll or very different from actual changes at release time of course ....


I wouldn't put too much stock in it all ending up like this. But it's interesting to see the direction they're going in. Most of it looks like good changes to me :)

#6 John McGuirk

John McGuirk

Posted 25 October 2011 - 04:19 PM

Sweet, Rokh gets an agility boost. I'm off to fit a "get under their guns" Rokh now... On a more serious note, what does gfxBoosterID mean? Is it a model change or something? Please don't make the flying 3-ring binder I'm training towards into something even more ridiculous... Also am I reading this right that there are going to be an EWAR (ECM/damp/track/painter) command link and an ECCM command link? That kicks basically all the ass I can think of at this point. I hope I'm not missing some enormous EWAR nerf somewhere else...

#7 Othran

Othran

Posted 25 October 2011 - 04:37 PM

Hmmm the Tier3 BCs appear to have a base warp speed of 1.0AU/sec. That'll work well mmm? :D Early days. Edit - ahhh its a base multiplier for the warp speed of the ship class, not the base warp speed.
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#8 Nareg Maxence

Nareg Maxence

Posted 25 October 2011 - 05:56 PM

Hi! Been lurking in my Eve hiatus. Destroyers have the ROF penalty removed and are are more agile and harder to hit. WTFBBQ-Wolfpack boost!! This can't possibly be real lol!
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#9 AkJon Ferguson

AkJon Ferguson

Posted 25 October 2011 - 05:56 PM

Looks like CCP is going full retard on the Dramiel nerf (can't help but wonder ...) We need a good Dramiel roam before they get thrown on the scrapheap. As for destroyers, that's funny, removing the ROF penalty was exactly what I independently arrived at as a suitable buff for them. They're supposed to be glass cannons. They're currently glass pea-shooters. More cannon is good.
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#10 glepp

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Posted 25 October 2011 - 05:58 PM

Looks like CCP is going full retard on the Dramiel nerf (can't help but wonder ...) We need a good Dramiel roam before they get thrown on the scrapheap.

Dude, the dramiel needs a nerf. Badly.

Seems about right to me.



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#11 glepp

glepp

Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:00 PM

Destroyers have the ROF penalty removed and are are more agile and harder to hit. WTFBBQ-Wolfpack boost!!

Hell YEAH!

Wolfpacks will destroy the new BCs like melted butter in a fire.



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#12 glepp

glepp

Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:06 PM

One thing I'm not sure of is the increase in Agility and speed on all hybrid ships. The way that formula works, doesn't that mean that an increase means the ships will be LESS agile?



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#13 Nareg Maxence

Nareg Maxence

Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:17 PM

One thing I'm not sure of is the increase in Agility and speed on all hybrid ships.

The way that formula works, doesn't that mean that an increase means the ships will be LESS agile?

Yeah, you are right. Looks like it is talking about the inertia modifier where it says agility. And lower is better.
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#14 glepp

glepp

Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:19 PM


One thing I'm not sure of is the increase in Agility and speed on all hybrid ships.

The way that formula works, doesn't that mean that an increase means the ships will be LESS agile?

Yeah, you are right. Looks like it is talking about the inertia modifier where it says agility. And lower is better.

But that's the OPPOSITE of what blaster boats need...



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#15 Nareg Maxence

Nareg Maxence

Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:28 PM

Well they get a velocity boost. So maybe they think they need to nerf agility to balance it, or something.. :unsure:
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#16 Azual

Azual

Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:29 PM

They're not going to nerf the agility of every hybrid ship, that makes no sense at all. For most of them, that's the only change. I wonder if somebody hit the wrong button on their calculator...
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#17 Othran

Othran

Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:29 PM


Looks like CCP is going full retard on the Dramiel nerf (can't help but wonder ...) We need a good Dramiel roam before they get thrown on the scrapheap.

Dude, the dramiel needs a nerf. Badly.

Seems about right to me.


Yeah I made a killing out of Dramiels bought just pre-Dominion - took a punt on CCP going :awesome: on Angel ships ;)

Needs a nerf but looks like its got hit by the nerfbat of doom. Few will be sorry about that either.

Would be fun to have a "last night of the Dramiel" roam - most of you probably have one somewhere and prices will drop like a stone once the nerf happens (even if its a soft nerf).
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#18 glepp

glepp

Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:31 PM

Would be fun to have a "last night of the Dramiel" roam - most of you probably have one somewhere and prices will drop like a stone once the nerf happens (even if its a soft nerf).

I have a few....

If the missus lets me, I'll post and FC a roam.



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#19 John McGuirk

John McGuirk

Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:31 PM

Wait they're removing the destroyer ROF Penality. Typos make me laugh.

#20 glepp

glepp

Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:33 PM

Wait they're removing the destroyer ROF Penality.

A-Yup



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#21 Nareg Maxence

Nareg Maxence

Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:35 PM

CCP Konflikt reminds us that these changes are just stuff that they are playing around with on an internal server. https://forums.eveon...5701#post255701
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#22 glepp

glepp

Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:38 PM

CCP Konflikt reminds us that these changes are just stuff that they are playing around with on an internal server.

https://forums.eveon...5701#post255701

BUT STILL!!

IT'S GONNA BE AWESOME!!!111!!!



Also, we need a bigger biggest font on these forums so i can properly convey my emotions.



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#23 Nareg Maxence

Nareg Maxence

Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:45 PM

Yeah.. This patch is a boost to Agony Unleashed. :D
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#24 Rynnik

Rynnik

Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:58 PM

Yeah.. This patch is a boost to Agony Unleashed. :D


Confirm. B)
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#25 Stein Voorhees

Stein Voorhees

Posted 25 October 2011 - 07:46 PM

Someone loves us :D
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