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#1 Ecatherina W

Ecatherina W

Posted 21 April 2010 - 09:55 AM

Tea, you are going to run for CSM again, right?

Right?

Right!?!?

RIGHT!!!!!!?????!!!


RIGHT!


Mod Edit: I've attached the voting link and added a voting open tag to the title. - Baka (sorry to ninja your post Cath, but I figured you wouldn't mind, if it gets Tea elected)

2nd Ninja Edit - changed the title for some urgency in the last days of voting - Baka


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#2 DaDutchDude

DaDutchDude

Posted 21 April 2010 - 09:58 AM

Yes he will. Either he volunteers, or we volunteer him. ;) :P :D
"As always, speak softly and carry a big stick."


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#3 Ecatherina W

Ecatherina W

Posted 21 April 2010 - 10:11 AM

Good, then I can formally promise 9 votes in favour...


AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT EVER CONSIDER VOTING FOR THAT CAREBEAR EVA JOBSE!!!!
'

CCP would look into more permanent consequences for criminals, so far this hasn't happened. Probably because everyone with a few destroyer alts can do it, and punishing too harshly will only result in character recycling. I must admit I am very fond of Ultima Online's justice system, where murderers could lose 20% of their stats and skills, and criminals tossed in jail for several hours or days. There are even games, where PK characters are deleted if they are caught within a certain time after the crime. Now that is consequence. If you destroyed someone's hulk, setting him back 15 hours, then you shouldn't get off the hook by whacking rats for an hour. Now as I said I don't see it practical to implement an UO-style system into EVE, but things should be brought more into balance, and there should be more long-term consequence to crime.


If you really have to vote female, Mynxee is a good choice... just don't vote for someone who will want to work to stop us terrible "PK'ers".

GRRRRR!
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#4 Tea

Tea

Posted 21 April 2010 - 10:15 AM

I have applied but unlike many other candidates I won't begin the campaigning till CCP announce who is in the running.

#5 Ecatherina W

Ecatherina W

Posted 21 April 2010 - 10:19 AM

Well, Tea, good to know you are going to be running, I was worried it would be Sok, Mynxee and that terrible woman. And in that lot, Mynxee wins by a million AU. :heart:
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#6 Tea

Tea

Posted 21 April 2010 - 10:45 AM

Well, Tea, good to know you are going to be running, I was worried it would be Sok, Mynxee and that terrible woman. And in that lot, Mynxee wins by a million AU.

:heart:

At least with Ank running publicly we don't have the current situation where she is raising issues through another Take Care delegate. Sadly she will probably get voted in along with one of the other terrible "PVP is bad" candidates. Thankfully they seem to have confused the CSM process with a "do what I say" process and so many of the terrible ideas will be rejected.


The laughable fact is that I had to raise a carebear issue (one that also related to FW) because for 3 meetings in a row the Take Care party didn't Care enough to raise it (even though it fell squarely into their area of expertise). Of course I pushed the issue as submitted but then suggested an alternative risk vs reward system which would still make PvP an option ;)

#7 Ecatherina W

Ecatherina W

Posted 21 April 2010 - 10:53 AM

My only issue with you, Tea, is that you have voted for not letting inactive accounts gather datacores. Bad teadaze... oh, wai... all my datacore producers are currently active, so ... oh, well, I forgive you...
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#8 Othran

Othran

Posted 21 April 2010 - 11:03 AM

AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT EVER CONSIDER VOTING FOR THAT CAREBEAR EVA JOBSE!!!!
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Not again, please not again. Why does she play at all? ~:(
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#9 Tea

Tea

Posted 21 April 2010 - 11:19 AM

My only issue with you, Tea, is that you have voted for not letting inactive accounts gather datacores. Bad teadaze... oh, wai... all my datacore producers are currently active, so ... oh, well, I forgive you...

It seems like a fair proposal to me ;) If you are playing the game you can have rewards, if you are not playing you can't.

Sadly there was some discussion snipped for NDA reasons...

#10 Draelor

Draelor

Posted 21 April 2010 - 11:48 AM

Bah in that case Tea won't get my votes. One thing I like is letting the datacores build when I take vacations, voluntary or forced. Tea, you're a friggin retard and I should hunt you down and burn you at the stake. But I don't think Guernsy has enough wood for that to work, so you're safe.
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#11 Tea

Tea

Posted 21 April 2010 - 12:15 PM

Bah in that case Tea won't get my votes. One thing I like is letting the datacores build when I take vacations, voluntary or forced.

I'll leave this subject until CCP announce something ;)

#12 Ecatherina W

Ecatherina W

Posted 21 April 2010 - 01:46 PM



Not again, please not again. Why does she play at all? ~:(


That's part of the problem. She doesn't. She does forum whoring from what I can tell. And she is disqualified even on that topic...

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#13 Ecatherina W

Ecatherina W

Posted 21 April 2010 - 01:48 PM

Bah in that case Tea won't get my votes. One thing I like is letting the datacores build when I take vacations, voluntary or forced.

Tea, you're a friggin retard and I should hunt you down and burn you at the stake.

But I don't think Guernsy has enough wood for that to work, so you're safe.


You are voting for Tea or I will... hm.... I find myself lacking a good threat, except for the usual..

I WILL STICK YOU IN MY CARGO HOLD WITH KERZACKS OLD TENNIS SOCKS!!!!
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#14 Draelor

Draelor

Posted 21 April 2010 - 02:41 PM

I'm already married, living in Tasmania, and forced to deal with Bob Hauk (the guy you almost murdered on vent during that capital op) regularly. You can't really do much worse to me.
"Who the F is this knob?"

#15 Carver

Carver

Posted 21 April 2010 - 02:54 PM

...and he wears a skirt
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#16 Draelor

Draelor

Posted 21 April 2010 - 03:07 PM

It's called a kilt, and your old lady liked what was under it last night, ya bastard.
"Who the F is this knob?"

#17 Nareg Maxence

Nareg Maxence

Posted 21 April 2010 - 03:08 PM

I definitely don't get why anyone should be able to just sit back and farm datacores with no effort.
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#18 Carver

Carver

Posted 21 April 2010 - 04:17 PM

I know, I know, a kilt. But I looked it up this time and there is no clan tartan with a flower print. I *might* have believed you had you gone with kimono. Also, Tea Daze for CSM. PVP in our time. A rifter in every pot.
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#19 Tea

Tea

Posted 21 April 2010 - 04:30 PM

Stop derailing this thread with your flirting :P Suffice to say, when campaigning starts I won't jump on the "fix lag" and "fix the UI" bandwagon. Rubber stamped issues* are not a solid campaign platform for the 10month CSM5 term and certainly don't offer any distinction between any candidates who attempt to do so. *By Rubber stamped issues I mean stuff like fixing lag which no sane delegate would object to if raised to a CSM meeting. Yes sometimes these things need to be sent to CCP, but any 9 random players could perform that task ;)

#20 Draelor

Draelor

Posted 21 April 2010 - 04:38 PM

Some days, Tea, I suspect they listen to the CSM as much as they do any 9 random players.
"Who the F is this knob?"

#21 Discipline

Discipline

Posted 21 April 2010 - 08:19 PM

I definitely don't get why anyone should be able to just sit back and farm datacores with no effort.


Because they want to be able to buy ships to kill people with when they finally have some time to play. I think its a good income source for casual gamers.
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#22 Tea

Tea

Posted 21 April 2010 - 08:51 PM

Some days, Tea, I suspect they listen to the CSM as much as they do any 9 random players.

If those 9 random players just shout, whine, bitch and moan like some previous CSM candidates who are running again then of course nothing gets done.

CSM4 did things in a different way and got some very positive feedback.



I definitely don't get why anyone should be able to just sit back and farm datacores with no effort.


Because they want to be able to buy ships to kill people with when they finally have some time to play. I think its a good income source for casual gamers.

The difference here is between getting passive income from a paying account and getting passive income building up on an unsubscribed account. The first is fine for casual players, the second is unfair on the paying customers.

#23 Baka Lakadaka

Baka Lakadaka

Posted 21 April 2010 - 11:26 PM





I definitely don't get why anyone should be able to just sit back and farm datacores with no effort.


Because they want to be able to buy ships to kill people with when they finally have some time to play. I think its a good income source for casual gamers.

The difference here is between getting passive income from a paying account and getting passive income building up on an unsubscribed account. The first is fine for casual players, the second is unfair on the paying customers.


Farming datacores might take little effort ongoing, but there's a huge time investment up front to get to a decent level.

Hundreds of hours of boring missions to get the standings required and a large investement in skills (the ISK isn't huge - a hundred million or so, but the training time is wasted for most other pursuits). Even then if you want to make decent ISK, you need to monitor the market, shift your research to different agents and finally sell for a good price.

All of the ongoing effort requires a player that's active, but if you take a month ofr two off, it's always encouraging to come back to a small pile of datacores to fund some fun. I don't mind if CCP nerfs it for inactive players, but keep it reasonable, like maybe a month - RL people can go on holidays for a month and come back to find that things have progressed OK at their jobs.

Anyway, I'll be supporting Tea with all my active accounts and I might even spring for a GTC for my inactive account when the time comes for an extra vote.

Tea - let us know when you're ready and we'll do the support thing on the Agony website again.
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#24 Tea

Tea

Posted 22 April 2010 - 12:14 AM

Just waiting on the official list from CCP which according to CCP Fallout will be sometime this week (they are running compliance checks according to her twitter). Whilst I know we'll disagree on some issues I hope people will support my policy of sticking resolutely to the CSM process. Anyone in Agony can confirm that I refused to raise issues for them directly and always gave the same answer, raise them via the Assembly hall (Agony people got no special treatment :P)

#25 Baka Lakadaka

Baka Lakadaka

Posted 22 April 2010 - 12:58 AM

Just waiting on the official list from CCP which according to CCP Fallout will be sometime this week (they are running compliance checks according to her twitter).

Whilst I know we'll disagree on some issues I hope people will support my policy of sticking resolutely to the CSM process. Anyone in Agony can confirm that I refused to raise issues for them directly and always gave the same answer, raise them via the Assembly hall (Agony people got no special treatment :P)


We'll tell CCP whatever you want us to tell them, as long as we get what we want!!!!!! i.e. special treatment.


:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
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